If this happens to returning U.S. Military soldiers what do we have to look forward to as gun owners?
If this happens to our soldiers what is going to happen to hunters that fly to places like Alaska to hunt As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following: When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards. Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That's where the stupid started. First, everyone was forced to get off the plane-even though the plane wasn't refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine. It's probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren't loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs. The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our Cargo-just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN. This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols. So we're in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they're going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this: TSA Guy: You can't take those on the plane. Soldier: What? I've had them since we left country. TSA Guy: You're not suppose to have them. Soldier: Why? TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon. Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I'm allowed to take it on. TSA Guy: Yeah but you can't use it to take over the plane. You don't have bullets. Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers? TSA Guy: [awkward silence] Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I'll buy you a new set. Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security] To top it off, the tsa demanded we all be swabbed for "explosive residue" detection. Everyone failed, [go figure, we just came home from a war zone], because we tested positive for "Gun Powder Residue". Who the F**K is hiring these people? This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns-but nothing that could have been used as a weapon. Can someone please tell me What the F**K happened to OUR country while we were gone? Sgt. Mad Dog Tra
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Welcome home.
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Five letters Sarge -- O B A M A ..............
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Welcome back to hell. You can thank your president and his fellow liberals for that.
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First off, thank you for your service. Second, the Those Stupid A$$wipes are completely devoid of common sense. There is no way one guy is gonna try to take over a bunch of grunts with a nail clipper. It would hurt too much to have it shoved up his @ss
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Napolitano happened. It's probably at least partially her fault. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/19/napolitano-veterans-targets-right-wing-extremist-recruiters/
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Thats stupid, and by the way, I live right outside Indianapolis in Carmel, haha, didn't know Indy airport TSA was that much of a bitch.
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May I be the first to congratulate you on your extraordinary perspicacity. No one else around here seems to have noticed; and the news people keep acting like everything's just hunky-dory. (Heck, if I get any safer I think I'll just puke!)
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To think that our national security depends, in part, on these Thousands Standing Around. This is why there should be more Air Foirce bases around the country, so military personnel don't have to deal with these civilian misfits.
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You should have hit him with the butt of your M-4.
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It didn't begin while you were gone. It began with the institution of the Civil Service system, over a century ago. Congress decided regulations could take the place of good sense, and the rules and regulations have expanded on an absurd scale ever since. This doesn't really have anything to do with nail clippers and weaponry so much as it does with rules being followed as the new God in the Church of Bureaucracy. Ever tried to leave blank a spot on a government form that isn't applicable to the situation? Same deal.
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yeah its like the old days where they wouldn´t let you on a plane with a pair of tiny scissors but you could take a lighter plus spraycan. Or like they give immigrants this paper, on the plane, asking "Do you plan terroristic acts in the United States?". Really sad that you get treated like that, "welcome home, thanks so much for fighting for our country, we think your a terrorist"... thats just a great welcome-home.
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You had to go through this not because of Obama or the liberals. This has to do with the perception of security the american people crave. No this nonsense does not make us safer but if it wasn't around people would complain and say that the president doesn't protect the country. Plus all of this bs started under Bush not Obama.
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I read this same article online, you probably should give credit to the actual writer of the article so people don;t think you're the guy who wrote this.
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something really bad, since 9/11, security has gotten wackier and wackier, to the point of near communism and retardism I suspect something is going to happen real soon if no one does something to stop it, I fear something is going to happen to the US and it's not going to be pretty.
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I heard a similar story about nail clippers from another returning vet. Although I am probably the only conservative for the new TSA rules (I agree with the pat downs, and the full body scanners, because eventually al qaeda will use white muslims who can blend in with the rest of us, so profiling wont work). What you described is asinine, how many returning veterans are going to try to take over a plane (with nail clippers)? A little common sense will go a long way.
